Gaerma
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« on: July 13, 2009, 12:33:27 AM » |
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Why is the solution to every problem me buying something for someone?!
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Michael
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 01:05:36 AM » |
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I think I will use that house rule for the bennies, its a pretty good idea.
What is this going to mean for Spooky Outhouse?
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JOHNKELLY
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2009, 01:13:00 AM » |
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Well I don't know what this means for the Podge Cast but I hope the Outhouse isn't affected too much.
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The Jank Cast A podcast about Roleplaying Games, Board Games and general Geek Culture.
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Rib
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 02:41:29 AM » |
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without the Outhouse, just me and my mom will listen to DUG  hope you guys can grow up and work through this or I might start listening to FTB again when Luke goes crawling back to them. 'WAAAAAAAAAAAAAhh!!(mbulance)" cried Lucias, "Adam and that jerk David were mean to me!!" 'Come to me my child' replied Dan, 'stroke my hair and tell me all about it" Hope you guys can stitch back together, this image disgusts and terrifies me. |
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Brad
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 03:23:03 AM » |
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That was disappointing on a few levels.
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Joe
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 04:45:54 AM » |
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That was disappointing on a few levels.
What are the non-obvious levels? |
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JosephLSelby.com, my professional writing website What?! That would hurt and taste delicious at the same time! --TrapCast_Sara
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2009, 08:09:40 AM » |
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So, maybe the recent concern about David and Luke being too hard on each other had some merit after all? Also, is GenCon suddenly going to be awkward now?
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Can't say more. Joe says I have to write. Stingray's my dawg. - keithcurtis The Way of the Game Podcast - Enlightenment, one game at a time. |
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2009, 10:27:43 AM » |
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I really hope everything gets worked out. If not, all good things... |
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I have the rabbies!
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Tipsy
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 10:58:10 AM » |
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Add another voice to those who want things to work out.
Still, as someone who has gone through the wringer emotionally and financially this recession, I can't imagine how I would react if someone spoke to me like that. Never mind talking like that on a recording that is going out to a fairly large public and will be listened to by peers and friends. I hope reconciliation is possible.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 11:06:14 AM » |
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Add another voice to those who want things to work out.
Still, as someone who has gone through the wringer emotionally and financially this recession, I can't imagine how I would react if someone spoke to me like that. Never mind talking like that on a recording that is going out to a fairly large public and will be listened to by peers and friends. I hope reconciliation is possible.
Knowing David personally, he wouldn't have spoken like that if there wasn't more going on behind the scenes that the general public doesn't know about. I was pretty shock by how abrasive he was being towards Luke, mostly because its not like the David I know. |
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Tipsy
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 11:19:00 AM » |
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Add another voice to those who want things to work out.
Still, as someone who has gone through the wringer emotionally and financially this recession, I can't imagine how I would react if someone spoke to me like that. Never mind talking like that on a recording that is going out to a fairly large public and will be listened to by peers and friends. I hope reconciliation is possible.
Knowing David personally, he wouldn't have spoken like that if there wasn't more going on behind the scenes that the general public doesn't know about. I was pretty shock by how abrasive he was being towards Luke, mostly because its not like the David I know. Thing is: Behind-the-scenes is behind-the-scenes. As a regular listener who doesn't know the hosts personally, I have only their public personas, statements and actions to consider. If a host is going to behave that way and make cutting statements like that in public--without giving any context as to why--then the only impression I can have of them is from their jerky behavior. That public action trumps private motive is a core concept in western society (I'm thinking Aristotle's rhetoric and ethics). It is also the foundation of professionalism. I know podcasting is a hobby, but that exchange was unprofessional by even hobbiest or fox news standards. |
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RobJustice
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2009, 11:43:49 AM » |
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Thing is: Behind-the-scenes is behind-the-scenes. As a regular listener who doesn't know the hosts personally, I have only their public personas, statements and actions to consider. If a host is going to behave that way and make cutting statements like that in public--without giving any context as to why--then the only impression I can have of them is from their jerky behavior.
That public action trumps private motive is a core concept in western society (I'm thinking Aristotle's rhetoric and ethics). It is also the foundation of professionalism. I know podcasting is a hobby, but that exchange was unprofessional by even hobbiest or fox news standards. My comments weren't to defend what was said, but to say that it was as surprising to people they know personally as well. David has been nothing but polite since I've ever met him, that's the real shocker for me. He was just down right mean at points in this episode and I'm just as shocked as you guys are. I'm not saying that David was in the right, I'm saying that's extremely unusual. It makes it even more prominent to me at least. On the topic of professionalism, if I'm allowed a wee bit of tangent here, his behavior was rude and uncalled for but I wouldn't call it unprofessional. He's not a professional podcaster, he's a hobby podcaster. Similar to ham-radio operators; if someone is being a jerk then their being a jerk, their not being unprofessional. I just really get sick of people expecting a certain level of "professionalism" in podcasting. We pay to do podcasts, buying equipment, paying for hosing, offering our free time to record/edit/post/etc, and I don't like being bashed because of how I choose to do my show. I don't meant that personally, IE: Tipsy is a dick, but just in general. Sorry, a little pet peeve of mine.  |
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Tipsy
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2009, 12:03:50 PM » |
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Thing is: Behind-the-scenes is behind-the-scenes. As a regular listener who doesn't know the hosts personally, I have only their public personas, statements and actions to consider. If a host is going to behave that way and make cutting statements like that in public--without giving any context as to why--then the only impression I can have of them is from their jerky behavior.
That public action trumps private motive is a core concept in western society (I'm thinking Aristotle's rhetoric and ethics). It is also the foundation of professionalism. I know podcasting is a hobby, but that exchange was unprofessional by even hobbiest or fox news standards. My comments weren't to defend what was said, but to say that it was as surprising to people they know personally as well. David has been nothing but polite since I've ever met him, that's the real shocker for me. He was just down right mean at points in this episode and I'm just as shocked as you guys are. I'm not saying that David was in the right, I'm saying that's extremely unusual. It makes it even more prominent to me at least. On the topic of professionalism, if I'm allowed a wee bit of tangent here, his behavior was rude and uncalled for but I wouldn't call it unprofessional. He's not a professional podcaster, he's a hobby podcaster. Similar to ham-radio operators; if someone is being a jerk then their being a jerk, their not being unprofessional. I just really get sick of people expecting a certain level of "professionalism" in podcasting. We pay to do podcasts, buying equipment, paying for hosing, offering our free time to record/edit/post/etc, and I don't like being bashed because of how I choose to do my show. I don't meant that personally, IE: Tipsy is a dick, but just in general. Sorry, a little pet peeve of mine. Fair enough, but if I recall correctly David has, in the past, talked about professionalism and I, personally think it is an appropriate topic. I also think that the establishment of Spooky Outhouse and David's role as the main face for the organization makes him an ambassador for the brand, whether he likes it or not. That said, I shall not bring up professionalism as a concept around you again, although I would point out that most of the attacks on your show for being unprofessional are pretty specious- if being crude was unprofessional, than so are most radio talkshow hosts and stand-up comedians. And I think excluding that many successful people from the category of 'professional' would be ludicrous. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2009, 12:56:22 PM » |
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Finally! The Podgecast has destroyed itself from within, leaving room for other shows to take over the Outhouse! Muhuhahahaha!
Sadly for the other shows, I suspect this will work itself out, as everyone knows Luke goes on hiatus before he quits anything.
I suspect that the Podgecast will come back bigger and stronger, and David and Luke's make up will be so sweet as to be even more disturbing than their breakup.
On the other hand, Matt has posted to the forums twice in the last week, which IS a sign of the apopopacalypse.
I'm not sure why we needed to be exposed to that little bit of Reality Podcasting, but apparently the hosts thought it important enough to share...
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Stuart
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2009, 01:07:10 PM » |
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Kinda weird listening to that. For a bunch of guys who sit around talking all the time you'd think someone would say something instead of silently walking out / silently watching someone walk out.
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